Agenda for ESC Monday 9PM in 506:
1) Minus and Plus Grades
2) Finals Week Updates
3) Dean Committee Voting
4) Committee Updates
5) Contact hour cut
Minus and Plus Grades
Prof Baglione initiated this discussion w/in the faculty, brought to student’s attention
Baglione: Her classes are numerical, she wants to see a more cts distribution of grades (would be more fair to students)
Class of 2019 MechEs were polled, showed mixed feelings
Some classes are well suited to plus and minus
Project based and curve-based classes give teacher subjective control over students’ grades, so plus and minus might hurt students more in this case
Students don’t want different classes to grade differently, want consistency in scheme across the board
Profs could put in their syllabus that they do or do not choose to abide by the +/- system
What is the representative opinion of the student body?
Prof Smyth expressed interest in this
Does this affect your GPA?
Some think it could cause grade deflation
Some say it would do the opposite!
A: 4.0 A-:3.67 B+:3.33 B: 3.0
Could help students strategize their study time if they know exactly how well they need to do on a final to get a certain grade
Some profs grade on clusters (like Savizky) to reduce discreteness of grading scheme
Adding +/- will not affect the average student
Will hurt the best students b/c they are just barely getting As
Some like the idea of the professors choosing whether or not to do the +/-
Profs could use this to help students
Prof Smyth says it gives him the ability to give hardworking students a little boost (fairly)
Some believe students would get more minuses than pluses, which could hurt students
Would complicate things for us b/c cooper already gives wide range of grades
Getting one + or - grade on your transcript and having all other non-marked grades looks bad to employers, might falsely show you couldn’t get a + on any grade
Giving Profs a choice is good, but consider Calculus. What if one prof uses +/- and the other doesn’t?
HSS does +/- already so it the problem of looking bad to employers already exists or isn’t a big problem
Argument stands both ways for hurting the top students: Those who barely make the A can get an A- and not B
Could be up to department, not prof
What if we had a system that represented your grade numerically? (92 is .92*4.0)
This is still a discretized system
Departments could set new grading scheme (85+ could be an A)
Getting 4.0s in your GPA is very helpful, this would happen less under a +/- system
An EE prof is known to round a B- down to a C, and changing the system would prevent this from happening
If there’s no A+ this could also hurt students
MechE profs give Bs when an A- is warranted
Prof. Luchtenberg says he wants to reward students with an A+
Makes profs job easier
What is the purpose of a grade?
Is it the institutions role to give us a grade to help us get a job? Mark how much you understand? Is a letter going to define how much you know or are there other ways to demonstrate your knowledge?
Written evaluations are very well done at other schools (Evergreen)
Employers want to see potential, more than a letter grade
Prof. Baglione wants a formal statement from ESC on the students’ opinion
Could create committee to write statement
**POLL YOUR SECTIONS**
Finals Week Update
First draft of finals schedule will be circulated to students in 1.5-2 weeks in order for us to find conflicts and return that info to Guido
Stock is skeptical about how this will work
How is this different from two semesters ago?
We’re not sure. It could be the same, it could be worse.
Once conflicts are identified by students, Dean Stock can bring this up to administration
Fontaine analyzed the amount of classes and proved that finals week composed of 3hr blocks in a 5 day week doesn't work
Decrease hours per final from 3 to 2 and/or have more than 5 finals day
Why is there an imperative from admin to have a finals week?
B/c Prof wolf submitted 40 student complaints to Laura and she thought to reinstate it
As a council, we can devise a solution with more signatures than Wolf’s petition
Form committee to generate solutions:
Finals week will always be some degree of miserable, but the misery can be mitigated
“Sliding scale of suckiness”
There needs to be student input on the finals week schedule
Max Summers helps Guido w/ the schedule
Strange cases complicate the scheduling
COMMITTEE: Present finals week solutions online so that people can vote on it in two weeks
Dean search committee
Ariana Carena Gab Jacob Jeremiah Sanjeev
**Jacob Jeremiah and Ariana selected for Dean Committee
JAC is drafting new constitution over the summer for the next term to specify how budgeting works
Chris Watkins is looking to appear at the March JSC meeting to gather opinions
JSC has to approve JAC constitution
Casino night is NEXT Thursday--needs volunteers
Get a set number of chips
Felt pads need to be done next weekend (spreadsheet to plan this)
Curriculum Committee can’t figure out when to meet, its not happening
Faculty Auction runned by Dilara
Board game night
Lunch w profs
Adjuncts can be involved too
Donate money to something w/in Cooper (or just Cooper in general) instead of ESC (VOTE ON NEXT MEETING)
Donating to a specific part of Cooper helps give us a tangible recipient of donation
Budget plan: Follow through on last semester’s budget
Approve anything new next meeting
Tomorrow is FSS, Sanjeev needs an alternate (Brighton is now alternate)
Used to be way of disciplining professors: keeping letter describing incident in permanent file
Are these anonymous?
Contact Hour Cuts
Order from Dean’s office to Math Phys and Chem to drop the contact hour to match the credit hour.
Reduces face-time b/w students and faculty
No real discussion of this, Stock introduced this very abruptly
Is administrative as well as curricular change
Could restructure physics, cause more full time faculty to teach classes than adjuncts
Why did this happen so suddenly?
Two forces pushing this: Dean Stock is leaving, and he feels that if he doesn’t do it now no one will
Lawyers had to review this to make sure this is legal by the union
Disparity b/w credit and contact hours originates from an old Dean who would approve professors on a case by case basis to teach more hours and bypass the curriculum committee
Is Laura involved in this decision? Is this conversation happening in other schools
Laura asked for budget cuts, this is how Stock is making them
Stock got other schools’ Deans on board w/ this
Teaching same material at faster pace with less hours is equally stressful
Math is already standardized and rushed, cutting hours would hurt it more
Physics gets lumped into this b/c:
Could be structural change that affects committee
Could be direct curricular change which takes a lot of time
Governance wasn’t as strict in the past, but it is now which is why Dean Stock is flexing his muscle to institute this policy
Some say student body didn’t think this was a problem that needed to be solved
Significantly reduces amount of math engineers learn
No good thing comes out of this: either we lower standards or we cram, we sacrifice values
WIll be significantly harder if academics don’t change but time w/ profs does
Some profs will respond to this by adding their own hours, others will respect the change
Sum of all cuts across 3 schools is 9.1 million dollars
Lawyers approved this just to make sure the union wouldn’t sue
Save $140,000 a year
Not directly a result of the FEC report
Any efforts to replace the hours?
Have students tutor more (math have a lot of good ones)
There’s one chem tutor
Money could be used to fund more tutors (not the same as time w profs)
Some profs would need to teach more class after this cut
Prof. Topper’s case: Teaches 16 hours, would be short 2 hours under new system. Topper could teach a new gen chem lab section.
We can replace the easier/”softie” profs with the full-time ones
More classes with smaller class sizes allows for teaching at faster pace more comfortably
Credit deflation in the past doesn’t mean it will continue
Number of contact hours is not a measure of prestige, you analyze credit hours
Removing contact hours may not be a detriment b/c we haven’t proved the contact inflation has increased Cooper’s prestige
Complaints are coming from departments that would see paycheck cuts
EE Dep’t head isn’t concerned about reductions in linear algebra/diff eq knowledge in his EEs
It’s not solely about the paycheck--Wolf doesn’t go after money for his own gain
Many refute this point, say that Wolf is after power and its easy for him to get a lot of money by teaching one class (overload pay)
Engineering depts are in support of this decision
We should think of this as an agent for change in how we learn at our school
Some profs are great and shouldn’t change (like Mintchev/Smyth)
Other lectures are no better than a video
Opportunity to use full-time faculty more, change department
Powerful for this council to offer solutions that will improve our education (we want xyz)
This is the school asking us how we want to be teached in the form of a decision
Some refute this point, think the Math department is divorced from these changes
Mintchev: This doesn’t change the quality of our education. Liz Odonell: I hope this does change it.
We’re freeing up two hours for more engineering courses and ID (interdisciplinary) courses and extracurricular activities
Flip classroom movement; Profs are being asked to reevaluate how they teach, there’s room to preserve quality while changing model
This is about budget cuts:
What foundation do we want for Cooper? Students leave w/in first two years, what impression are we giving them?
Rigor may not be targeted. Extra hours in Mintchev were spent on homework. Other classes run quizzes during extra hour. Office hours and tutors compensate for these.
Introductory material in first year courses is repetitive and already known (what is a function, periodic table) and we can skip this stuff w/o harming quality of education
Mintchev and Agrawal said “There’s no way in hell I can fit my curriculum into 4 hours”
Then we should tell them how they can change their pedagogy to do that
Freshmen can’t collaborate w/ profs by telling them how to teach because its not our place
Still on road to tuition, the current selling point is our academic rigor so we’re too fragile to mess with the academics right now
People come here to be a good engineer, and freeing up more time will create room for a real engineering course in the foundation year (EID101 is not effective)
Why do we have to wait to learn real engineering? Why do we take PChem so early?
Recognize that we have to rigorously learn the fundamentals first before getting into real engineering
Is creating a new course even feasible given the prereq system?
Frees up student time for individual curiousity too
Can take EID classes freshmen year
There’s no definite that this would happen
Not necessarily delicate situation, just breaking from institutional history
This will not have a direct affect on free tuition
Do you think Math Phys and Chem are foundational? Yes
Wolf did not shut down at the idea of Physics lecture breaking up
Wolf thinks taking these classes is just to expand your mind, not to help your engineering.
These courses have elements you need to be an engineer
If Topper decides that he needs 4 hours and he can demonstrate that need, he can keep the four hours if Curriculum Committee approves. This applies to any professor
Testimony: one class (taught by adjunct) meets 7 hours for Calc, and the cuts will provide a kick in the pants to make sure adjuncts are teaching well and appropriately
Need trust in the administration, shouldn’t lose profs because we are rushing into decisions
One person did not attend the 5th hour of her calc lectures and said she knew just as much as kids who did attend
Contact hour is 50 min by legal definition, could finesse the system slightly to fit 5 hr curriculum in 4 w/o much change
Student tutors are not helpful, not close to time w professor
At a state school upperclassmen teaching is commonplace
Here, it is not, and they cannot replace the quality of a professor
We cannot tell professors we know better
Freeing up time for electives isn't wanted by BSEs, more math and physics electives is not what students want
Not freeing up the right profs
MechE profs say they teach math skills again and again in their classes
Some say this is the MechE professors problem not a problem with the math curricula
Could we implement this as a limited run before implementing permanently?
Failing Physics under this new system would allow you to take it w/ another prof, which could help you understand it better
Some students prefer to work through their confusion outside of class with self-studying, prob sets, office hours, and group studying (depends on how you learn)
Mintchev and Smyth could teach more classes with this new system
Thinking that 5 hours is rigor is a traditional way of thinking that Cooper has given us
Its not about budget cuts
Its not about cutting curricula
Its about creating opportunity to change pedagogy and courses
Imagine forming a team of students and faculty and higher ed experts on how to capitalize on this change. Frame this as opportunity, not solely negative change.
Siloed structures is a big part of the problem eg MechE dept not being aware of what is taught in math dept
How do we show as a student body that this is an issue? How do we get faculty across the board to understand how we are all screwed over by this?
Someone touched upon being in a lecture and not learning anything--we can correct this
Do Mintchev and Smyth want to teach more? Probably not, but this change would only split current time differently, not add more time.
Proposal: Create a way to change the curricula at Cooper, contact Mary
Can come to SS345 class
Brian and Jacob can pitch a new idea about this to the curriculum committee
Profs will not communicate unless they have to, and this can force them to learn about what other profs are doing
Opinion: This directive is creating a void and we are being forced to put something in place
We don’t have to put a class in to the freed up time
Alban is going so slow that he creates voluntary hours for students to attend
Union does not allow wolf to teach patent law for free. There’s a contract law that he’s using all of his paid hours.
Council can make a recommendation to change this.
What is the chance of having good full time faculty teaching more? Do we make full time faculty teach in lecture or more small classes
Switching classes to lectures will save money, but isn’t a good move for most classes.
Sounds like we just want the teachers we like to teach us more
But this result occurs from department hands’ being forced
It is now prudent to make changes in math dept b/c we’re short 1 person (3 w/ injury and sabbatical) so we can alleviate the stress on the dept
Lack of quality is a concern, a solution is to bring in better adjuncts and not spread full time into more classes
Shouldn’t be unnecessary to go into hard topics
Having more classes and smaller classes taught by full-time faculty that are changing their teaching styles is bad
Reducing contact time is detrimental to mental health (talk to Marianna for details/sources) especially for those with less science background
If BSE program is to grow, BSEs need more electives. This expansion can happen with these cuts
Point of all this: Student role in these big changes, the good and the bad, opening the discussion to the community
Petition against this on ESC page
This budget cut was voted on a year and a half ago
Opinion: I hate that budget cuts made this come up and I hate that this decision was made behind closed doors
We need to talk more about how this decision happened so suddenly.
Why are budget cuts making room for changing education? This should have come up without this negative push
How do we establish who the top tier profs are? They’re known w/in each department based on popular student opinion
Dan G. has been the only one telling profs how they could benefit or bounce back from these professors
Small portion of student activity in clubs b/c of time commitment. Clubs benefit students in professional world. Freeing up time will give students skills that they can only learn outside the classroom
Gabby (Kirsten Ondris)
Max Summers (unofficial)
Book fair - new methods of payment and removing people from text notifications
Updates: committee updates, accounting update from the treasurer, finals week update
Resolution about jokes about suicide
Volunteers to help with inauguration
Have Chris watkins wipe the book and notificaation list
$310 under budget, more to come from Gab
We are doing faculty auction, casino night this semester
The budget committee from last semester is being asked to produce another budget for this semester
Gab was there, it was gratifying to be there (Toby and Sanjeev missed it)
A few students were dismissed and didn’t think it was their fault, but some had plans and were allowed to stay
Lack of attendance is problem for students on probation
Next meeting after spring semester
Prof. Wolf collected grievances from his EM class and forwarded them to the faculty and the ad chairs. He wants Laura to push the finals week back to what it was (scheduled)
Wolf seemed to ignore the concern that kids could have 3 finals in one day
Laura made the decision to have some sort of structured finals week, but the details have yet to follow
Apparently having finals during the last class was brutal for many students last semester (Fall 2017)
Why are we still having classes during finals? Professors preferred this option, hopefully the new plan will fix this problem and find ahappy medium
Problems the new finals week will address: Too many finals in same day, teachers still teaching during finals week, 2 hr block and 1 hr block classes like to give a 3 hr final
Suicide Letter to Professors
How did this letter come to be? Were the specific incidences of professors making suicide jokes addressed directly?
Probably were not addressed, but everyone is unsure
Opinion: It is strange that a resolution is being passed instead of specific professors being communicated with
This resolution is still beneficial because some professors may not realize what language they’re using or may not realize how serious their language is
Some people in the Class of 2019 MechEs thought sensitivity training for faculty may be more appropriate
Might be counterintuitive, profs will think this is speech-policing and may be insulted
Dan proposed to speak personally with professors when the idea for this bill was nascent, but this is what the council opted for
Profs could be individually insulted by this resolution, but they will come to realize the significance, just like with the cheating resolution
It’s just a letter, profs still have the choice to ignore it
What will this say about ESC? Is our language about suicide jokes instilling suicidal thoughts not appropriate here? Will professors be thrown off by this language and the specificity of this bill?
There isn’t a unilateral link b/w one person’s suicidal jokes and another’s suicidal thoughts.
Unfair to say the gravity of suicide is greater than other dire issues affecting students, like murder (“This test was murderous”)
Different things are more offensive to different people
Feels like a ban on hyperbole to target just suicidal language
If you can’t distinguish b/w hyperbole and what’s appropriate to say, you shouldn’t be teaching
If you’re worried about professors’ health (if they’re making suicide jokes) that’s a separate issue
If we do something less specific than this, it will be less authoritative. If we stay on target, this will be taken more seriously than a general letter
What is the alternative to this (for those who do not support the resolution)?
Feels like this resolution identifies a problem and not offer a solution
Asking profs to stop is a solution
Maybe we need to offer a channel for offended students to talk to profs
But this channel does exist through the Office of Student Affairs
This wouldn’t happen in the workplace
ESC should be trusted to represent students who deal with this issue, broadening it will cause profs to brush it off
Students aren’t full-fledged adults, so we cannot act like everyone just needs to “grow up”, saying this is the easy way out and does not recognize the complexity of the issue
Publishing a resolution targeted towards students to let them know that jokes aren’t tolerated, and that ESC can help students who are victims of this, is a good idea
ESC can help students communicate with a prof
Would you rather send out a targeted letter or have the student meet with the Dean and the prof? This is a good first action without taking serious disciplinary action
Some think we should not approach professors directly b/c what authority does the ESC have to call profs out on their behavior?
Watch out for “what-about-ism”, where we broaden the argument too much by considering all the related problems
Why are we writing this and to who?
More STEM students consider suicide than you think (statistically higher than other majors)
Depression is a disease of the mind and it is hard to reach out when you need help
This letter can ameliorate any triggers for silent sufferers
The trend of making suicide jokes when you’re suicidal is not a trend for everyone and should not be central to an argument against this bill
Dan said he is willing to talk to each prof individually after the letter is sent out to cool any anger or misunderstanding against the resolution
If Dan did this on behalf of ESC, profs would not think of it as one person but a whole group approaching them, and this is totally appropriate
Underlying argument: What if someone is offended by suicide jokes/comments in class? This argument weakens the motive of the letter b/c it is cliche (precisely b/c it is a “what if” argument)
Brian says he is directly opposing “what-about-isms”, but he is not satisfied with this resolution because he wants a greater action to occur
Students are still adults and should not start this war on hyperbole
Taking a logical approach to suicide is not appropriate b/c suicide is not logical, people prefer a philosophy of safety against causing suicide/mental trauma
We need to take action and not fall into the hyperbole exam
These jokes are personal b/c profs are telling students their exam grades are reason for them to kill themselves (YOUR actions should make YOU kill yourself)
Voting on sending out resolution (Anton retracting his edits)
There are still people who are not in this room with dissenting opinions, and we need to be aware of that
Volunteers to help with Laura’s inauguration
Only one person responded saying yes to helping
Monica Shapiro from Arch school needs ushers from student council (Feb 5-8)
Jenna Jacob Maarek Brighton Omar Themmalai
Gift being planned to give to the President (a big book full of signatures)
We’re gonna try and throw a goddarn party!
Some clubs want to help w funding and setting it up
Gabby booked for April 21st, some clubs think it's a good idea to push off to fall semester as a welcome back party
If Professional Societies are involved with funding, it comes off as more engineering oriented than interschool
The vibe should not be professional-sponsored, so if professional societies don’t want to fund it for that reason, they shouldn’t
Proposed March 9th first day of spring break, or last day of semester
But then we have to consider shop party
People might be traveling on march 9th
March 29th may be end of midterms, also a possibility
***Plan to vote on date next meeting***
Open Mic Night
Used to have slam poetry
Robert Godkin wants to host one, wants 2-3 volunteers and $200 from ESC
Needs to wait for budget committee
He could try going through BSU
Dan Toby and Jeremiah spoke with Mary about talking with Dean candidates
Idea: establish permanent committee of students to talk to future candidates, anyone can run for this
Reach out to Ad Chairs if you want to put your name in the hat, no speeches required
Student asked about lockers, there seems to be a lot of lockers that are registered on the ESC website without a lock, and a lot of lockers w/ locks on them that aren’t registered
Frankie is in Indonesia and is not making boxed lunches
HOT NEW MENU ITEM: UDON
Prof. Cone (Kohn?) is literally rearranging his own schedule b/c he teaches at NYU as well
Had 1 hr of class in the past two weeks instead of 6 hrs
Bring it up to Om
1. Committee updates
2. Midnight breakfast/casino night/semester surprise
3. Pop up store
4. Assassins funding
5. Budget discussion
6. JSC resolution
Faculty Student Senate
Sanctuary school discussion - Laura Sparks and Mauricio Higuera were invited to speak
HR also invited - hiring processes, especially in terms of HSS, were discussed. HR is 90 days new throughout the department, discussion was had about the role of HR at cooper
Side note - NY employers no longer to ask about current salary.
Great Hall programming - Laura commented on the nuances of inviting diverse perspectives
Discussion about allowable years to complete Masters program, lots of disagreement in the room right now
Some professors are of the opinion that spending many years on a Masters thesis is detrimental to education and the quality of the degree
Some Masters students are older, full-time workers who may need longer periods of time to achieve their degrees
Discussion about making 303 or 304 a study space for senior, maybe junior ChE’s
Midnight breakfast/casino night/semester surprise
Casino Night has been postponed
Hasn’t been done in December in recent years
Frankie’s, Drobbins are on board, providing eggs, bacon, waffles pastries, etc.
Several items WILL be kosher
Will be sure to do outreach in Foundation, ideas include running around screaming to come to breakfast, bringing samples to architecture studio, etc
Finals Week Coffee
Marianne has lots of coffee
Gab will see if Frankie will let us borrow coffee machines
Will likely happen around the last weekend (middle of finals)
Possibly decorate 4SL with them
Silencing of the chairs
1 package of felt, 1 package of cork coming in to test on chair
Pop up store
Dan has sent availabilities of volunteers to Mindy
Kim Newmann has asked if it was okay to swing by pop up store and take pictures of people with/peddling merchandise
Has kinda been happening every 2 years
Need ~$100 for squirt rings
Impromptu vote held, acknowledging that $2000 budgetary amount will not likely be spent in its entirety
17 in favor, 1 opposed, 1 abstention
Has proven slow this semester, soliciting ideas for improving process next year
Considering we already have a list of proposals, things would likely be more streamlined in the future
ACTION ITEM - brainstorm “permanent” ways to spend ESC money
Intense processes can be hindering to the effectiveness of ESC’s time
Proposed sessions, maybe during club hours, to more directly solicit input from student body
Scaling back of newly established processes maybe not the way to go, should look at streamlining voting process, ways to involve the voices of the greater student body
PROPOSED- comments page on ESC web site
Could establish a discretionary fund for smaller expenditures - trust the Treasurer to spend this smaller fund as they see fit
Need to expand the runnin/planning of events beyond the scope of the Treasurer position
There’s a resolution about the Financial Aid Office being voted on tomorrow
Student Deep Dive
Kiersten has brought up the idea of a “deep dive” where students in-depth look at the mission of cooper, the direction of the school, etc.
Professors joking about suicide
Obviously not acceptable
In situations like this, reach out to Grace Kendall about how to move forward or handle this
Should make a fast-track effort to get out a resolution as well as to reach out to all professors individually and make this heard
Draft open letter/resolution will happen next meeting
Piece to be published in Pioneer by Ariana, Jack about this issue
Working on gaining further student perspectives
Diversity task force is working on strategic plan for this
Christina (Alt. for Michael)
Continuing communication discussion from last meeting
Toby: reaffirm and continue to tell people to speak up at meetings, avoid reiteration when speaking up.
Trying out new discussion stack in which a certain amount of direct rebuttal is allowed for
Anton: expressed general sentiment in the room about tension/ difficulty feeling included or heard, open call to be more mindful of this and attempt to be more conducive to conversation.
Mitchell Lipton commented on certain english language deficiencies that may result from predatory international admissions processes. Arvinth will be following up.
Reminder to use online resources
There’s still no money (freeze on materials budget)
There is a need to reach out to the administration directly to ask for more funds for the library
Casino night: max $150 for games, decor. Under budget!!
Themed dress weeks thrown out there as idea
Met with Paul, preliminary steps are being taken to build site to put students in contact with alumni in relevant fields
$2500 budget brought into question as a result of few spending measures passing so far this year - only ~$500 approved so far. $2,000 remains to be allocated. Consensus is that as long as spending is allocated this semester, we have met goal.
Point by point budget presented. (Can we get this up on the web site?)
Interdisciplinary mixer - potential for free rooftop venue.
We have record of all expenditures, but not organized into useful information regarding inflows and outflows.
Fixing squeaky chairs - could possibly test several options on chairs before full scale solutions
Renovating roof garden - could use hardy plants, would be appealing tour point or relaxation point. Dissenting opinion: students would likely not make much use of it.
Could possibly just have plants in study spaces or classrooms
STEM Speakers - expensive per speaker, but would be of direct academic benefit.
Could alway simply petition school to pay for eng. Speaker events
Snack machine - risky to do something that requires continuous funding.
There are plenty of snack places open nearby.
An impetus for students to spend money doesn’t provide a direct contribution to the students
Free coffee - several options, boxed coffee, use Frankie’s coffee machines, etc.
New furniture - permanent couch near windows of 5th floor, potential to refurbish study lounges, or refurbish Frankie’s
Keep in mind that people are messy
Materials cannot be porous, fabric must be easily cleaned, dark colors
Look into fastening orange cushions
Televisions in lobby - intended use to display current events in lobby of NAB.
Could be high-maintenance spending, need to have talks with multiple departments
Opinions in the room that these screens are often not helpful
Free food - Midnight breakfast, things like that
Doesn’t necessarily have to be an independent event
Question of whether this is a slush fund, or if we have separate events that are allowed to be independent of this
Free food allocation does NOT include midnight breakfast
Could poll student body to find out what kinds of food they want to see
VOTING: Yay or nay, if approved expenditures surpass $2,000 , votes of confidence used to lower to appropriate values.
FINAL VOTE: Unanimously passes that Interdisciplinary Mixer, Silencing the Chairs, And food/coffee events will have the $2000 allocated. $1,000 to IDM, $500 to chairs, $500 combined to food/coffee.
2. Action items:
Get your bios in for ESC site
Raja is looking for recommendations for students to feature their work that exemplifies a specific PCoops statement
Do we want to help with a pop-up shop? Question of whether we would get a merch discount for volunteering still up in the air. Unanimous agreement for having students run it.
Study space at Cooper
Experienced hostility in study lounges, because majors become territorial regarding the study lounges on their own floor. No study spaces or classrooms are allocated for specific majors.
Kiersten proposes a Semester Surprise - one-night-only, late at night, take a coffee cart with snacks, coffee, and a speaker distributing free stuff and providing a mobile dance party. Quick sentiment vote passes unanimously.
Finals schedule - Still numerous exams on the same day, lack of finals week means continuing to meet classes add stress and time commitment.
It doesn’t make sense to make an entire new schedule for the last week
Total required contact hours mandate the weirdness with continued classes in this last week of school
Potential to take exams early, case-by-case handled by Dean’s office
Note that Cooper starts later than most schools, makes dead week difficult
Spread the word that there are avenues to follow to pursue schedule changes
Ivory Tower screening moved to Fri, Dec. 8th
Dec 7th - Engineering Open Forum, ROSE, Deans and Chairpeople on stage to answer questions from the student body
Board notes went up this morning, shed a lot of light on budget cuts, money saved from people fired, etc.
Dean Search update - 2 candidates seen so far are encouraging. This search seems to be proven fruitful.
Question about lack of results from last search. No candidate was offered, did not satisfy the committee or Laura.
Starting turn June 6, 2018
Brian Frost LaPlante
Admissions/HSS update about student literacy
~94 responses to budget poll, at least a quarter of them are good
Topics that popped up:
Paint the NAB
Free food (number 1!)
Access to textbooks
Mixer designed to bring all 3 schools together
Snack Machine in Frankies
According to our LEED certification, we are supposed to have roof garden
But alumni terrace isn’t open often, it is a security problem
Would also need continuous financial support over time (could set aside ESC money for this)
TVs in lobby that would announce events, communal announcements
Silence chairs in nab with little felt pads for $200
Getting specialized equipment for independent studies
Other committee members emphasized roof garden, improving student space, and interdisciplinary events
LL101 could be a student space since that classroom isn’t needed
Casino Night will have $500 from ESC funding, must gauge interest in this in our respective sections!
Gabby is talking to Conley about this event, need vote! Dec 7th is date, need to vote now if we are doing this event
Getting advance check from business office
Note: This is NOT actual gambling
Exchange chips that you win for tickets and tickets for prizes
Will need: Chips, cards, roulette wheels, felt poker maps (superfluous, could get green table clothes); all this is ~$150
Food--could we get this from culinary club? Frankies? (Would have to pay for both)
Food is snacks, not dinner
Will block $300 for prizes and decor
Vote passes, casino night is happening
Budget Committee will narrow down this list to practical and desirable events, and the entire ESC will vote on this budget
Ivory Tower Screening on Nov 30th wants to give out free swag, but may need funding help from ESC
$1200 budget can only go to food and zine publication, merchandising still needs funding
Does ESC wanna participate in some way? Bake Sale? Have a table? Donation? Sponsor a specific item?
May turn this event into a fundraising event?
Budget committee must produce: Use of money, advantage for student body, and amount for each budget item
Publish online in 1 week so that we can vote on it next meeting
Admissions/HSS update about student literacy
Working towards HSS minor, Toby is writing a proposal and is presenting it to Eng Curriculum committee
Hopefully, current sophomores will be the first ones to take the HSS minor
Buckley raised the issue that HSS1 and 2 are usually school-specific so there’s less mingling between the schools
Buckley wants students to be preregistered for HSS1 and 2 so that the engineering schedule has to work around the HSS schedule
How’s the minor going to work? Would you be able to focus the minor on a specific track?
4 tracks: Literature, art history, science/technology/innovation, and economics (last two categories are weakest in terms of chances of being offered)
Take 15 credits (5 courses after HSS1-4) and get assigned an advisor that helps you plan this
Will there be a GPA minimum? Undetermined, but unlikely
Arvinth is talking to Dean Lipton about literacy problem
Motions to be passed:
Admissions for master’s program, any students admission is subject to the specific department, and can be denied a non-thesis option
Minimum gpa is 3.0 for admission, but exceptions can be made
Must get grade of C or better to get masters credit for a class & must get 3.0 or higher to graduate masters
Students who hold a BE or BSE from Cooper can apply master’s credits that are in excess of the undergraduate requirements to their master’s degree (no double-counting credits)
Each department can set their own requirements
Students have 2 years to complete the requirements (non-thesis), 3 years for thesis option, need Dean approval to stay longer
This last point is contentious because students who work part-time may take longer than 2 years to finish the program
All departments said this needs to be clarified
Fontaine wants to have a joint meeting between admissions and curriculum; Most of these opinions result from the EE department, but each department has final say in these motions
EE dept wants thesis only option
MechE dept is on board with that
CivE doesn’t care
ChemE also wants thesis only
Meeting next week
Library only wants 2 reps to show up to their meeting!
Will decide internally who from the committee will go to this meeting
Pass complaints on to Ariana and other library comm members
People suggested doing a dress up event! For Halloween, or ugly sweaters
If other people could supervise animal therapy sessions, this would help us host more dogs
Ad chairs are meeting with Dean candidates on Nov 14th and 15th
President meeting on that following Friday
Many students feel that the shooting at Cooper last week was not handled well by the administration and that students were not supported well.